02.02.2011

Transcript - Wednesday, February 02, 2011

The Confederated Tribes of Grand Ronde

Tribal Council Meeting

Governance Center

February 2, 2011

 

 

Tribal Council:

Present:              Tribal Council Member (TCM): Reynold Leno (RL); Steven L. Bobb Jr. (SB); Jack Giffen, Jr. (JG); Toby McClary (TM); Chris Mercier (CM); Kathy Tom (KT)

Excused:            Cheryle Kennedy (business leave), Valorie Sheker (business leave), Wink Soderberg (business leave)

Invocation:         Steven L. Bobb, Sr., Tribal Council Member/Elder

Unidentified Voice:    (UV)

Council Member(s):    (MEMB)

Announcements: (See Minutes)

   Notices

   Events and Meetings

Other Business: (See Minutes also)

Transcript of Proceeding

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RL:                  Reynold L. Leno, Tribal Council Vice-Chairman.  We'll go ahead and call the meeting to order.  Steve, would you do our invocation, please?

(STEVEN L. BOBB, SR. PROVIDED INVOCATION)

RL:                  Roll call, please.

KT:                  Cheryle Kennedy?  ATNI.  Reynold Leno?

RL:                  Here.

KT:                  Kathleen Tom?  Present.  Steve Bobb, Sr.?

SB:                  Here.

KT:                  Jack Giffen, Jr.?

JG:                   Present.

KT:                  Toby McClary?

TM:                 Here.

KT:                  Chris Mercier?  Here.  Valorie Sheker?  ATNI.  Wink Soderberg?  ATNI.

RL:                  Motion to approve the absences?

SB:                  I'll move.

KT:                  Second. 

RL:                  We have a first and second for approving the absences for tonight's meeting.  All in favor say aye.

MEMB:           Aye. (In Unison)

RL:                  Opposed?  Abstentions?  The motion carries.  Did you say, Lauri, we just didn't have the minutes ready?

LS:                  Correct.

RL:                  We don't have them. 

LS:                  They're not ready. 

RL:                  Okay.  We don't have our minutes ready for tonight so we'll move on to our agenda.  Seeing no Unfinished Business we'll move to New Business. 

KT:                  General Council Meeting, February 6, 2011, Agenda.  Location:  Tribal Community Center.  Time:  11:00 a.m.   Tribal Historic Presentation Office (THPO) Report.  Door Prizes, $250, one at $100 and three at $50. 

RL:                  Does everybody -- it looks like it's approved already.  Do we have any amendments for the agenda for the General Council Meeting?  Does everybody approve? 

KT:                  We've got to be out of there by 2:00 o'clock for Super Bowl.

RL:                  Two o'clock? 

KT:                  It's just a wish.  I'm kidding.  Oh, actually I've got to be gone by 1: 00.  That's for you and the rest of you. 

                        2.  Legislative Action Committee.  a.  Per Capita Period and Payment Date Declaration - resolution.  Date: 1/15/11.  Present: 8 of 9.  Present 8 of 9.  Recommendation: 8 yes.  The committee recommends that Tribal Council adopt a resolution 1) declaring a Per Capita Period of December 1, 2010 through February 28, 2011, 2) Declaring March 11, 2011, as the Payment Date for purposes of the per capita distribution for the per capita period, and 3) Directing the Tribe's Finance Officer to make per capita payments for the per capita period on or before the payment date. 

RL:                  Any questions or comments?  

UV:                 What date was that?

KT:                  March 11th.

RL:                  March 11.  Questions or comments?  If not I'll entertain a motion to approve the Per Capita Period and Payment Date Declaration - resolution.

SB:                  I'll move.

TM:                 Second.

RL:                  We have a first and second.  All in favor say aye.

MEMB:           Aye. (In Unison)

RL:                  Opposed?  Abstentions?  The motion carries. 

KT:                  b.  Compensation of  SMGI's Chief Financial Officer - resolution.  Date: 1/25/11.  Present: 8 of 9.  Recommendation: 7 yes, 1 abstained.  The committee recommends that Tribal Council adopt a resolution approving a merit increase for Chief Financial Officer of Spirit Mountain Gaming, Inc., SMGI, Roy Rhode, as discussed with the Chief Executive Officer of SMGI. 

RL:                  Questions or comments? 

BG:                 Brenda Gray, #339.  Because each one of these guys got written down and you're giving them raises? 

RL:                  They are -- they had -- in the budget that is declared for SMBC in '010 the amount was three percent across the board, got it from everybody, top to bottom.  So, this is the evaluations they received.  The same evaluations that you received and everybody else that works down there.

BG:                 Well, I didn't get (unintelligible) that good but --

RL:                  Well, it's three percent and then it's based on whatever your wage is.  So, yes, that is --

BG:                 Okay.  But still, I mean, that's something we're still not making the money we used to and they're really cut hours on people that were in -- and then with all these boo boos they're doing at work, you know, it's getting out of hand.  Somebody's not doing their job down there and somebody's letting things slide.  Like they did the coupon thing but you said we come out better on that because a lot of people did show up but then when they come up with the phone call number now we're going to have to pay those people back because it's a misprint on the coupons.  I don't know if you guys heard about that yet but that's going to cost us money and then on the chips -- the Grand Ronde chips that went through everybody, even through (unintelligible) and it's still nobody caught it until it was out on the table.  Now all I'm saying is somebody down there is not doing their job and somebody should be reprimanded for this because the things that's going on down there somebody needs to be keeping an eye on them because these things are costing us more and more.  Each time they make a mistake it's costing us and it don't hurt them.  They got their budget to do whatever but it comes out of the member's money and that's where I get upset with, you know, even though it's budgeted in there you've got to (unintelligible) but somebody's going to have to go down there and see what in the world is going on and why all these mistakes are happening lately.  Just these last couple of months.  Because no telling how many of those chips is going to cost the casino if they have to redo everything and pull them all.

KT:                  Is that -- is that a commission problem? 

UV:                 What was that again?

KT:                  What Brenda was talking about?  Misprinting of chips and --

UV:                 Well --

KT:                  Whose fault that is and how that happened and how -- any Board that is here that is down at the casino, the Councilman, do you know about that?  (Pause)  None of you knew about it?

HS:                  Tyrell Soderberg, #1797, GR Gaming Commission Employee.  I work for the Gaming Commission.  That was the night that one of my other staff members, (unintelligible) Rogers, they, from what I understand, when chips come in I believe we play some role in looking into more or less the security features of the chips and from what I understand, the little that I do know, because that's not something I truly focus on because it's more of a -- a misprint on the check -- on the chips and what I'm also understanding they're also backup chips too that for the longest time were being held but like I said this is not a question that I have a whole lot of expertise on unfortunately.  It's something more or less that auditors deal with but --

KT:                  The Commission auditors or just --

HS:                  Yeah.  Commission auditors.  Yes. 

KT:                  Okay.

RL:                  Steve?

SS:                   Steve Soderberg, #1415.  Yes.  I work at a cage so I kind of know a little bit about kind of what happened.  These were backup chips in the event that $100 or $500 chips were ever stolen like they were several years ago.  We have to have emergency chips to go out on those tables to pull all those ones that were stolen off so that when people bring in large amounts the other -- the other one shows up.  They all have the security features in them so they're still -- they're still legal.  They just don't look good out on the table.  So, they were originally pulled and put out there because they felt that some of the other chips didn't have security chips.  They meant to be out there for forever.  What's really strange about this is that those things have been sitting in a vault for over two and a half years so whenever this problem started it was -- we could have been -- other people up there were dealing with this to begin with when they came in.  And so -- so, yeah, it is kind of a -- you know, I -- I would hope that they would -- when they look into that, I'm sure that somebody's investigating this now, that whatever the Department was, it got sent out because they were pretty embarrassing.  It said, uh, The Confederate Tribes of Grandt, with a "t" on the end of it, from all the chips, $100 and $500 chips, and they -- they went out and -- they went out on the tables and I worked, you know -- it might have been the next day we had -- I wasn't part of pulling them all back in but it was -- it was kind of embarrassing.  I think it was more of an embarrassment than anything else.  So, I mean -- and once again, I really don't know anything about the -- you know, the legal terminology or anything about what -- what actually happened or who was involved.  I just know they'd been there for over two and a half years and they were for backup chips, for -- you know, for probably never but still, you know, like Brenda said it was kind of embarrassing but I don't know that it caused any (unintelligible).

RL:                  Any other questions or comments? 

BG:                 Brenda Gray, #339.  All I'm saying is just there's too much going on down there and these things happening and somebody should be investigating and trying to find out because, you know, maybe once in a great while that something happens fine but not when it's one thing after another.  Somebody is not doing their job down there is all that I'm saying.  And then you guys want to get raises, even if it's merits or whatever,  you know, no. 

RL:                  Well, there was a Board meeting on Monday, so -- and they didn't get the word to us but obviously we will ask Rodney to update Council on it at the next Board meeting -- or the next meeting when we have him up here on Wednesday.  I'll -- I'll just say though, I mean, we have our Bboard meeting and a good point but to come out and, of course, we've got a whole year ahead of us but in our board meeting on Wednesday last year we were at a negative 20 per -- 27 percent almost or right at there for the month of January.  This January we've already started off, that meeting is more positive for the month of January.  So, we're getting off to a good start down there.  So, regardless of this issue some people are doing their job down there to the good side.  So, uh -- and we hope they keep it up.  December was a good month for us.  So -- but we've had great weather too.  So --

BG:                 Yeah.  You guys haven't had any snow.

RL:                  So, you know -- so there -- we're starting -- it's a real good thing for us to start off with a good year.  So, any other questions or comments?  If not I'll entertain a motion to approve the SMGI's Chief Financial Officer - resolution.

TM:                 I'll move.

SB:                  Second.

RL:                  We have a first and second.  All in favor say aye.

MEMB:           Aye. (In Unison)

RL:                  Opposed?

KT:                  Aye.

RL:                  Abstentions?  The motion carries.

KT:                  Not that they don't deserve it but times are hard and I agree with you.

UV:                 Well, what are we going to (unintelligible)  per capita?

KT:                  c.  Compensation of SMGI's Chief Operating Officer - resolution.  Date: 1/25/11.  Present: 8 of 9.  Recommendation: 6 yes, 1 no, 1 abstained.  The committee recommends that Tribal Council adopt a resolution approving a merit increase for the Chief Operating Officer of SMGI, Randy Dugger, as discussed with the Chief Executive Officer of SMGI.

RL:                  Questions or comments?  Hearing nor seeing any questions or comments I'll entertain a motion to approve the compensation of SMGI's Chief Operating Officer - resolution.

SB:                  I'll move.

JG:                   Second.

RL:                  We have a first and second.  All in favor say aye.

MEMB:           Aye. (In Unison)

RL:                  Opposed?

KT:                  Aye.

RL:                  Abstentions?  The motion carries.

KT:                  d.  Compensation of SMGI's Gaming Director - resolution.  Date: 1/25/11.  Present: 8 of 9.  Recommendation: 6 yes, 1 no, 1 abstained.  The committee recommends that Tribal Council adopt a resolution approving a merit increase for Gaming Director of SMGI, Stan Dillon, as discussed with the Chief Executive Officer of SMGI.

RL:                  Questions or comments?

LS:                  Did we accidently skip over the --

CM:                 Yeah.  We skipped Facilities Director.

KT:                  I did?  I'm sorry.  Can't we go back to that one? 

RL:                  Well, we'll just go forward with the one we've got and then go back.  Questions or comments?  Hearing nor seeing any questions or comments I'll entertain a motion to approve the Compensation of SMGI's Gaming Director - resolution.

TM:                 I'll move.

SB:                  Second.

RL:                  We have a first and second.  All in favor say aye.

MEMB:           Aye. (In Unison)

RL:                  Opposed?

KT:                  Aye.

RL:                  Abstentions?  The motion carries.

KT:                  e.  Compensation of SMGI's Facilities Director - resolution.  Date: 1/25/11.  Present: 8 of 9.  Recommendation: 6 yes, 2 abstained.  The committee recommends that Tribal Council adopt a resolution approving a merit increase for Facilities Director of SMGI, Ron Reibach, as discussed with the Chief Executive Officer of SMGI.

RL:                  Any comments or questions?  Hearing nor seeing any comments or questions I'll entertain a motion to approve the Compensation of SMGI's Facilities Director - resolution. 

SB:                  I'll move.

JG:                   Second.

RL:                  We have a first and second.  All in favor say aye.

MEMB:           Aye. (In Unison)

RL:                  Opposed?

KT:                  Aye.

RL:                  Abstentions?  The motion carries.

KT:                  f.  Compensation of SMGI's Guest Services Director - resolution.  Date: 1/25/11.  Present: 8 of 9.  Recommendation: 5 yes, 2 no, 1 abstained.  The committee recommends that Tribal Council adopt a resolution approving a merit increase for the Guest Services Director of SMGI, Janet Shultz, as discussed with the Chief Executive Officer of SMGI.

RL:                  Questions or comments?  Hearing now seeing any questions or comments I'll entertain a motion to approve the Compensation of SMGI's Guest Services Director - resolution.

SB:                  I'll move.

CM:                 Second.

RL:                  We have a first and second.  All in favor say aye.

MEMB:           Aye. (In Unison)

RL:                  Opposed?

KT:                  Aye.

RL:                  Abstentions?  The motion carries.

KT:                  g.  Compensation of SMGI's Human Resources Director - resolution.  1/25/11.  Present: 8 of 9.  Recommendation: 5 yes, 2 no, 1 abstained.  The committee recommends that Tribal Council adopt a resolution approving a merit increase for the Human Resources Director of SMGI, Camille Mercier, as discussed with the Chief Executive Officer of SMGI. 

RL:                  Questions or comments?  Hearing nor seeing any questions or comments I'll entertain a motion to approve the Compensation of SMGI's Human Resource Director - resolution. 

CM:                 I'll move.

SB:                  Second.

RL:                  We have a first and second.  All in favor say aye.

MEMB:           Aye. (In Unison)

RL:                  Opposed?

KT:                  Aye.

RL:                  Abstentions?  The motion carries.

KT:                  h.  Compensation of SMGI's Marketing Director - resolution.  Date: 1/25/11.  Present: 8 of 9.  Recommendation: 6 yes, 1 no, 1 abstained.  The committee recommends that Tribal Council adopt a resolution approving a merit increase for the Marketing Director of SMGI, David Julian, as discussed with the Chief Executive Officer of SMGI.

RL:                  Questions or comments?  Hearing nor seeing any questions or comments I'll entertain a motion to approve the Compensation of SMGI's Marketing Director - resolution. 

SB:                  I'll move.

CM:                 Second.

RL:                  We have a first and second.  All in favor say aye.

MEMB:           Aye. (In Unison)

RL:                  Opposed?

KT:                  Aye.

RL:                  Abstentions?  The motion carries.

KT:                  i.  Compensation of SMGI's Security Director - resolution.  1/25/11.  Present: 8 of 9.  Recommendation: 6 yes, 2 abstained.  The committee recommends that Tribal Council adopt a resolution approving a merit increase for the Security Director of SMGI, Joann Mercier, as discussed with the Chief Executive Officer of SMGI.

RL:                  Questions or comments?  Hearing nor seeing any questions or comments I'll entertain a motion to approve the Compensation of SMGI's Security Director - resolution? 

SB:                  I'll move.

CM:                 Second.

RL:                  We have a first and second.  All in favor say aye.

MEMB:           Aye. (In Unison)

RL:                  Opposed?

KT:                  Aye.

RL:                  Abstentions?

TM:                 Abstain.

RL:                  1 abstention.  The motion carries.

KT:                  j.  Compensation of SMGI's Surveillance Director - resolution.  Date: 1/25/11.  Present: 8 of 9.  Recommendation: 6 yes, 2 abstained.  The committee recommends that Tribal Council adopt a resolution approving a merit increase for the Surveillance Director of SMGI, Steve Bobb, Jr., as discussed with the Chief Executive Officer of SMGI.

RL:                  Questions or comments?  Hearing nor seeing any questions or comments I'll entertain a motion to approve the Compensation of SMGI's Surveillance Director - resolution. 

TM:                 I'll move.

JG:                   Second.

RL:                  We have a first and second.  All in favor say aye.

MEMB:           Aye. (In Unison)

RL:                  Opposed?

KT:                  Aye.

RL:                  Abstentions?

SB:                  I will abstain.

RL:                  The motion carries.

LO:                  Linda Olsen, #17.  Before we move on to the next questions here I'd like to have a comment on the compensations of all of the prior names and this is not a personal issue with any one of these people.  I just think that if we're all cutting corners and we're tightening our belts and that when we ask how much these people make no one can tell us and it's an employee issue but I guarantee you that I am not comfortable with them getting a pay increase, a merit increase, because I personally don't believe that that casino has done all that it can do.  I like these people, there's nothing personal about it, but I just don't -- I do not agree and I want it on record and I think there's probably people sitting in this audience right with me that do not agree that anyone in a management position at that casino needs a raise.  If I were a voting member and I was going to give anybody a raise it would be the housekeeping department, it would be those food servers, it would be those people because if that casino is not clean and if that food is not edible I'm not going to go there and spend my money.  And if somebody doesn't smile at me and treat me like I'm a guest I'm not happy.  So, this raise for these executors and these people up above I don't agree with.  I think the raises ought to be given to the lower staff people.  (Applause) 

KT:                  They are getting a raise, the -- the lower level people also. 

UV:                 But what are the percentage (unintelligible) what their raises are.  They're not (unintelligible). 

RL:                  You've got to go to the podium.

KT:                  They're --  they're actually in the same range.  I think that --

RL:                  It's three percent across the board.

KT:                  Okay. 

RL:                  That was what was in the budget. 

UV:                 Well, they work a hell of a lot harder than what those directors do.

UV:                 Three percent of $100,000 is a lot more than three percent of $1,000.

KT:                  Any -- anybody want to come to the podium and make a comment so it's on the record?

LO:                  Yeah.  I know.  When we talk about making cuts to our budget overall it just -- I really do believe that this is where it needs to start with -- with these directors.  Everybody knows they make over $100,000 a year down there.  I think that's common knowledge, well over that, and how much does one person need to live off of?  We know -- we know that housekeepers, what do they make, $24,000 a year, maybe?  And we know that three percent of $100,000 is a whole lot more money than three percent of $24,000 and those are the people I agree that deserve the raises down there.  And they don't automatically get a three percent.  They've got to get an exceeds expectations.  I'll tell you what nobody down there is getting an exceeds expectations.  If you're the peons, the low man on the totem pole, housekeeping, wait staff, you're not getting that three percent.  They hold that up there as a carrot because all these managers down there are getting bonuses on top of these merits, bonuses for staying under budget and they stay under budget by not giving those exceeds expectations and this is wrong. 

RL:                  What bonuses? 

LO:                  Are -- are you not on the --  the Board of Directors down there?

RL:                  Yeah.  That's why I'm asking what bonuses?

LO:                  Well, that's what everybody down there is saying that those --

RL:                  There are no bonuses.

LO:                  -- managers are getting bonuses down there.

RL:                  There are no bonuses down there. 

LO:                  Well --

RL:                  We don't give bonuses down there.

LO:                  You might want to ask --

RL:                  We've said that for many years down there.

LO:                  -- the managers down there that are getting bonuses for staying under budget. 

RL:                  I will ask that because we do not give bonuses.  We haven't given bonuses and it's (unintelligible) issue at our Board meetings for a long time and -- and we do not give bonuses down there.

LO:                  Well, I've heard different.  I would like to know the truth. 

RL:                  Well --

LO:                  So --

RL:                  -- I'll follow-up and let you know. 

LO:                  We probably (unintelligible).  It probably is confidential, you know, I heard that --

RL:                  Well, I don't believe it's confidential but --

LO:                  -- different manager -- different managers down there that they had their -- their kitchen appliances for sale on the bulletin board in the back of the (unintelligible) down there because they were remodeling their kitchens with their -- I should say kitchen with their bonus money is what they were telling their employees.  Yeah.  So, that is something to look into. 

RL:                  I will be calling Rodney.

LO:                  And, you know, there's some down there that I -- I really just totally don't agree with that are getting bonus -- or merit raises anyway.  They haven't done all they can do to streamline the additions that's down there and that's all I've got to say. 

RL:                  And I -- and I will say I -- I just want to let people know and, of course, we can't go into what these merit increases were or anything of that nature but I will say that Council -- the Board made the recommendations to Council and Council had a lengthy discussion about some of these issues that you are talking about right now and we had a lengthy discussion with Rodney and that's where we come to these decisions right here.  So, it wasn't just not approve -- not approve -- move through and approve without some discussion over it. 

VF:                  Violet Folden, #625.  I have to agree with our employees at the casino, they have cut them back until a lot of times it's just a skeleton crew.  You walk up to a cage window and you might have to wait there five minutes because there's only -- at the main cage there might be only three people there working and they can't keep up with all the people.  That isn't right.  You go to that machine and maybe if you're lucky somebody will come around and ask you if you want something to drink and I had to go and (unintelligible) you're not going to see nobody.  I have been in there several times and this has happened to me and it's like, wow, and they're not the happy employees they used to be.  They used to be really good working employees and now they're all sad and down-hearted and I understand that.  I mean, if I was working at a place and somebody was working alongside me and they were getting a per capita check to take in there and cash while this other guy is standing there getting nothing it would be heartbreaking.  It's like well, wow, they're getting paid a bonus because they're an Indian and I sit here and I get jack squat.  Why should I break my butt for that.  That's the truth.  That's the way I feel and I'm sure anybody in this room would feel exactly the same way.  I do not feel as though it's right for all the people down there to know when we get our money.  I really think that it should not be something that is flaunted right in front of them because it's not fair to them.  Their insurance has been taken away from them.  Everything else they worked to have has been taken away from them, just to the basic needs.  I mean they get the basics but they don't have what they had seven years ago.  Not a one of them do and they're heartbroken over it.  They can't be happy over something like that and we aren't never going to have a good employee relationship with them unless we turn something around so they're happy too.  We've got to do something. 

KT:                  Thank you, Violet. 

LO:                  Linda Olsen, #17.  I cannot walk away from this one.  My opinion is they ought to be glad that they have a job in this area of town.  In this area of -- they have to drive wherever they got it.  When we talked about having a casino years back, 1992-93, whatever it was, my feeling was is that we had a lot of Tribal members that needed to work and wanted to work and they -- a lot of them cleaned up their lives and a lot of them didn't but they're not employees there but to me the employees that have gone down there and cleaned up their lives and stuff and they bring in that little extra pay check or that extra per capita check or whatever in front of another employee to me that's that bonus.  That's that bonus for all the crap that we put up with for generations.  And I don't know any of those people that Violet's talking about that are complaining that they work just as hard as one of our Tribal members and that they're upset that somebody walks in their with a per capita check.  I don't know those people but I felt that we needed to employee more Tribal members in that casino.  If they were out there sweeping the floor or parking cars or picking up trash out in the parking lot at least they're not on TA, you know, and so that's -- that's just my feeling.  I think that they -- those people that get a job down there they need to work just as hard if not harder.  If you stop and think about the minorities, we have -- we have people that are called alien people that come into the United States and work in harvest fields in potatoes and whatever, they don't have a problem working for $5 or living in a shack, in a cabin, or whatever else, because they make more money here.  Their lifestyle is a lot better here than what they get.  Well, we get a lot of American citizens complaining that we have these people coming in and taking their jobs away, they wouldn't go out there and sweat.  They basically sit home and draw unemployment or welfare or whatever else.  They wouldn't get up and go.  So, that's my opinion about people that complain about hard workers and that they get a little extra bonus. 

RL:                  Okay.  Let's move on with our agenda. 

KT:                  k.  Lease Portion HR Jones Property to Round Valley LLC - resolution.  Date: 2/1/11.  Present: 5 of 9.  Recommendation: 5 yes.  The committee recommends that Tribal Council adopt a resolution 1) approving the real property lease between the Tribe and Round Valley LLC as presented by the Tribal Land Management Department Staff, and 2) authorizing the Land Manager to execute all documents required for the lease. 

RL:                  Questions or comments?

LO:                  Linda Olsen, #17.  I'll let the heart rate settle down here.  The reason I'm asking about this lease issue is because I'm not knowledgeable about this agreement and so if somebody could explain to us how this works I would appreciate it. 

RL:                  This is a simple agreement because Round Valley has their equipment and everything down there at the old mill plant.  So, they're an LLC so we have to have this lease.  Basically we don't charge them but we have to have this lease in place, this documentation.

LO:                  So, this is actually for (unintelligible)?

RL:                  That building is all -- just that building.

LO:                  Right.  So, it's like, you know, showing where we have this --

RL:                  It's showing that they're a separate entity as an LLC. 

LO:                  Okay.  Thank you.

RL:                  Jack?

JG:                   Yes.  I -- I believe it's just because the -- it's for the BIA to document that it's not a -- okay.  Jan is shaking his head no back there.  So, I -- I was thinking it was trust money so it was just for the BIA to show somebody outside that it was an LLC and not a (unintelligible). 

RL:                  Any other questions or comments?  Hearing nor seeing any other questions or comments I'll entertain a motion to approve the Lease Portion HR Jones Property to Round Valley, LLC - resolution?

SB:                  I'll move.

TM:                 Second.

RL:                  We have a first and second.  All in favor say aye.

MEMB:           Aye. (In Unison)

RL:                  Opposed?  Abstentions?  The motion carries.

KT:                  401K Plan Automatic Rollover Agreement - resolution.  Date: 2/1/11.  Present 5 of 9.  Recommendation: 5 yes.  The committee recommends that Tribal Council adopt a resolution, 1) approving the Automatic Rollover Agreement for Charles Schwab Trust Company to comply with the automatic IRA rollover provision in the Confederated Tribes of Grand Ronde Retirement Plan (401K Plan) for certain plan participants who leave employment are subject to mandatory distribution and fails to select a method of distribution, 2) authorizing a limited waiver of the Tribe's sovereign immunity in favor of Charles Schwab Trust Company only as the arbitration provision included in the automatic rollover agreement for a dispute between the plan administrator and Charles Schwab Trust Company and 3) authorizing the executive officer to execute the automatic rollover agreement. 

RL:                  Questions or comments?  Jolanda?

JC:                   Jolanda Catabay, #3424.  Can you explain a little more in regard to this agreement, this trust agreement.

RL:                  This -- this is just simply helping us with the people who, uh, leave work here and have less than $5,000 in their 401K.  It helps us.

JC:                   So, is this just a -- kind of an added benefit that we offer to the (unintelligible)?

RL:                  Rick or Chris?  Either one?

CL:                  Go ahead.

RA:                 Rick Anderson, Acting Finance Officer.  Yeah.  This is something that has been needed in the retirement plan for a few years anyway and this has to do with when an employee who has left employment either with the Tribe or the casino and they have their -- their balance in a 401K plan.  If it is greater than $1,000 and less than $5,000, we -- we can't automatically just cut a check and give to them because the tax -- tax consequences for that.  So, what we're doing is actually setting up with Charles Schwab separate accounts for these individuals and then the money that goes into -- into those accounts are just for their benefit.  So, it actually goes out of the -- the Tribe's 401K and into a separate account for that -- that individual person.

JC:                   Okay.  Great.  I understand.  Thanks.

RL:                  Any other questions or comments?  If not I'll entertain a motion to approve the 401K Plan Automatic Rollover Agreement - resolution. 

JG:                   I'll move.

CM:                 Second.

RL:                  We have a first and second.  All in favor say aye.

MEMB:           Aye. (In Unison)

RL:                  Opposed?  Abstentions?  The motion carries.

KT:                  m. BPA  Training Funding Agreement - resolution.  Date: 2/1/11.  Present: 5 of 9.  Recommendation: 5 Yes.  The committee recommends that Tribal Council adopt a resolution to 1) approve the Training Funding Agreement with the Bonneville Power Administration (BPA Funding Agreement) and 2) authorize the Tribal Council Chairwoman or in her absence the Tribal Council Vice-Chair to sign a BPA Funding Agreement for the Tribe. 

RL:                  Questions or comments?

VF:                  Violet Folden, #625.  What does that training entail? 

RL:                  I -- I thought -- I was going to comment on this because this -- where is Randy and Mike at?  This -- this is really a -- they brought it to us Tuesday.  This is really a great thing.  I wished we had more energy (unintelligible) coming to do this because basically this is going to be a week-long training.

LS:                  Two days.

RL:                  A two-day training.  That they will actually come here and basically we'll teach them everything we can about the Tribe, the culture, everything that we're doing.  So, I wish we -- we had a lot more of these and a lot more ability to do them. 

VF:                  That sounds good. 

RL:                  And hopefully we'll get the elders involved so they can tell them something that may be (unintelligible).  (Laughter)

VF:                  Oh.  Please.  These stories.  I'm tired. 

RL:                  Any other questions?  Comments?  Hearing nor seeing any other questions or comments I'll entertain a motion to approve the BPA Training Funding Agreement - resolution. 

SB:                  I'll move.

JG:                   Second.

RL:                  We have a first and second.  All in favor say aye.

MEMB:           Aye. (In Unison)

RL:                  Opposed?  Abstentions?  The motion carries.

KT:                  n.  Moss Adams LLP Audit Services Agreement - resolution.  Date: 2/1/11.  Present: 5 of 9.  Recommendation: 5 yes.  The committee recommends that Tribal Council adopt a resolution 1) approving engagement letters which incorporate professional service agreement with Moss Adams LLP for audit services for the year ended December 31, 2010 for the Primary Government, Grand Ronde Tribal Housing Authority, Employee Health Plan, Retirement Plan, Spirit Mountain Community Fund, Round Valley LLC and Grand Ronde Food and Fuel Company, 2) authorizing a Limited Waiver of the Tribe's sovereign immunity in favor of  Moss Adams LLC as to the mediation arbitration provisions included in the professional services agreement and providing that any award against the Tribe resulting from said arbitration may only be entered against the Tribe in the Tribal Court of the Confederated Tribes of Grand Ronde Community of Oregon  and 3) authorizing the Tribal Council Chairwoman, Cheryle Kennedy, to execute said engagement letters with incorporated Professional Services Agreements. 

RL:                  Questions or comments?  Hearing nor seeing any questions or comments I'll entertain a motion to approve the Moss Adams LLC Audit Service Agreement - resolution.

JG:                   I'll move.

SB:                  Second.

RL:                  We have a first and second.  All in favor say aye.

MEMB:           Aye. (In Unison)

RL:                  Opposed?  Abstentions?  The motion carries. 

KT:                  o.  Enrollment Infant Determination - resolution.  2/1/11  Present: 5 of 9.  Recommendation: 5 yes.  The committee recommends that Tribal Council adopt a resolution approving three infants #5997 through #5999 for Tribal membership based on the investigation and recommendation of the enrollment staff.  The infants have been found to meet the eligibility requirements for the enrollment as defined in the Enrollment Ordinance and the Tribal Constitution. 

RL:                  Questions or comments?   Hearing nor seeing any questions or comments I'll entertain a motion to approve the Enrollment Infant Determination - resolution. 

TM:                 I'll move.

SB:                  Second.

RL:                  We have a first and second.  All in favor say aye.

MEMB:           Aye. (In Unison)

RL:                  Opposed?  Abstentions?  The motion carries.

KT:                  p.  Enrollment Infant Determination Denial - resolution.  2/1/11.  Present: 5 of 9.  Recommendation: 5 yes.  The committee recommends that Tribal Council adopt a resolution denying membership to infant John Doe (date of birth 11-14-10/Application received  1/13/11), because based on  the investigation and the recommendation of the  Enrollment staff, the applicant does not meet the enrollment requirements under the Tribal Constitution and the Enrollment Ordinance. 

RL:                  Questions?  Comments?  Hearing nor seeing any questions or comments I'll entertain a motion to approve the Enrollment Infant Determination Denial - resolution.

JG:                   I'll move.

SB:                  Second.

RL:                  I have a first and second.  All in favor say aye.

MEMB:           Aye. (In Unison)

RL:                  Opposed?  Abstentions?  The motion carries.

KT:                  q.  Compensation SMGI's Chief Executive Officer - resolution.  Date: 2/2 and 2/3/11.  Present:  6 of 9.  Recommendation:  5 yes, 1 abstained.  The committee recommends that Tribal Council adopt a resolution approving a merit increase for the Chief Executive Officer of SMGI, Rodney Ferguson, as discussed with the  SMGI Board of Directors. 

RL:                  Any questions or comments?  Hearing nor seeing any questions or comment I'll entertain a motion to approve the Compensation SMGI's Chief Executive Officer - resolution. 

SB:                  I'll move.

TM:                 Second.

RL:                  We have a first and second.  All in favor say aye.

MEMB:           Aye. (In Unison)

RL:                  Opposed? 

KT:                  Aye.

RL:                  Abstentions?  The motion carries.  Okay. 

Announcements:

RL:                  We have several reminders  there.  Notices.  A City/County Dinner hosted by Chehalem Park & Recreation District,  February 17th.  Who all -- is anybody going to that? 

CM:                 I will be attending.

RL:                  Okay.  Chris.  University of Portland Conference on Food for Thought:  Issues Facing US all, April 16th.  Chris is going.  Do we have any other announcements? Seeing no other announcements we can move into Other Business.  Do we have any Other Business? 

DM:                 Delores McKnight, #340.  I was riding the other day with some kids on the shuttle that were members and they was talking, they wanted to get the per capita back to once a year and I said, no, I won't vote for that.  The only thing I would vote for would be once a week.  (Laughter)  When you get (unintelligible) my age I'd rather have it once a week. 

UV:                 I like that. 

RL:                  I just  -- I don't think we could do that once a week deal.  (Laughter)   I've got to apologize but we do have one more issue for business that we need to take care of as kind of  -- we've had some people who were not able to be here, at work, illness and other things and we have -- already have an extension for our committees but because we're having a hard time getting all our info -- information together we're going to extend it another 30 days, I believe.  So, uh, go ahead and read the --

KT:                  A recommendation that the Tribal Council adopt a resolution to extend the Committee Special Event Board Appointment that would otherwise expire on January 31, 2011 to February 28, 2011, as additional times needed to review the appointments and for reappointments to the Tribal Committees and Special Event Boards. 

RL:                  Any questions?  Comments?  Perri?

PM:                 Perri McDaniel, #2524.  So, I'm wondering who is handling --  who is handling those recommendations right now at this time? 

RL:                  Well, Dakota would be the one that usually handles them.  Lauri and them are handling them right now, I believe. 

PM:                 Okay.  So, is it going to take that long until the end of the month before we get our recommendation approved?

RL:                  We hope to -- I mean we hope we will.  I'm sure we will.  Kathy?

KT:                  We're very short staffed.  We just have Lauri and bless her heart and then some part-time people but tomorrow we're going to be talking about getting some additional help in there and then if you have interests or you've already put in your -- make sure you get them to Lauri so that she can get them to the right boards and committees and -- and just in case, you know, paperwork is some place else.  So, just paper trail for yourself.  And then we do need that additional time. 

PM:                 Okay.  Thank you.

RL:                  But I think what Council needs to do is go through them and we've got two straight forward, three straight forward, one that we can get down to (unintelligible) and (unintelligible) out of the way and then working on the other ones.  Any other questions or comments?  If we have no other questions or comments I'll entertain a motion to approve the 30 day extension for committee appointments.

SB:                  I'll move.

TM:                 Second.

RL:                  We have a first and second.  All in favor say aye.

MEMB:           Aye. (In Unison)

RL:                  Opposed?  Abstentions?  The motion carries.  Okay.  Now we're back to Other Business.  Oh.  I'll comment.  You know, we -- we talked to -- about and actually put out a survey on per capita and I believe it was last year when we handed them out and it was, what, about 80 percent of the ones that were collected that day or in that time frame that said that they wanted it quarterly.  

CM:                 It was overwhelming as I recall.

RL:                  Yeah.  It was -- it was overwhelming.  So --

KT:                  But we didn't put it out for every week. 

RL:                  We didn't put it out for every week but I'm not sure about that one.

DK:                 Well, they were saying our (unintelligible) we're getting down and if you put $6,000 in and now they said it was around $3,000 or something and they said that they're going to go back to that yearly deal since it had gone down and down. 

RL:                  Well, the way gas is headed we may need it every week, so -- (Laughter) 

DK:                 I might need it every week. 

RL:                  Go ahead.

CM:                 No.  I just -- I would ask to be excused.  I have to be in Silverton at 6 o'clock for a Council of Governments meeting.

RL:                  Did we get your vote on this?

CM:                 Uh --

RL:                  I vote no.  (Laughter)

CM:                 But it's (unintelligible) so --

RL:                  Chris -- are you going right now? 

CM:                 Yeah.

RL:                  Okay.

VF:                  Violet Folden, #625.  And with the gas being the way it is I think maybe I'm going to find me a buggy and start training my horses and I'll just ride on a buckboard.  Uh -- I forgot what I wanted to say.  He scared me so bad on my (unintelligible).  I said, oh, my god.  (Chuckling)  I already down sized.  I don't want to down-size no more.  I don't remember what it was but it was good.  See, you guys did a -- oh, I remember.  I would volunteer to come and work with any and everybody but you guys really keep me so darn busy as an elder I don't have time for nothing.  I just barely get to sleep.  (Laughter) 

RL:                  What did you want?  (Chuckling)

LO:                  Linda Olsen, #17.  I think that's 17.  Oh.  Anyway, I noticed that Dave is in the house.  I'm proud of you young man.  You've come a long ways since spitting on kids in the bus.  (Laughter) 

UV:                 Don't put that on the record. 

LO:                  I -- I think I've got the date and the girl's name.  (Chuckling) 

UV:                 It was a girl?

LO:                  Yeah.  Yes.  Anyway, uh, I just wanted to take a moment here to share with you that in spite of everything I am very pleased to have all the opportunities that I have as a  Tribal member and the reason I'm bringing this up today is because if I walk outside of Grand Ronde -- if I leave Grand Ronde and I go to someplace else people don't know who I am.  I'm not a Tribal member of anything.  I'm not a Tribal member.  I have blue eyes and I'm fair complected and I get this a lot when -- when we travel with our drums and necklaces and things and we go to -- to pow wows and other places.  We were at the Salem Fairgrounds last weekend and it -- it's a -- you know, get a table and put your table cloth on it and set your stuff out there and -- and then if you get a chance to walk around and look at other vendor's items and -- and you -- I guess I -- I feel it from time to time but I felt it especially last Saturday.  There are so many vendors that are real dark complected and they have -- and you have this image in your mind of what a Native should look like, you know, and -- and I don't look like that.  So, I'm really pleased that I can go to the clinic when I'm sick and I can go to the dentist when I need work on my teeth and I -- and I get a check in the mail.  Recently we had our roof leak and I was able to -- to use my elders check to get my roof fixed and go to the Monday night dinner at the casino or Monday, whenever you chose to go.  If somebody came up to me and asked me to fill out a -- a survey thing about would I give up per capita for something else I would give up per capita for my health care.  And at my age, I'm 63 and then we're talking elders and -- and to us that's really important but when you're a young guy or a young lady and you're kicking and running and going and, you know, you're not thinking about stuff except like -- like water and whatever, that per capita probably means a different thing to them, you know, than it does to us elders.  I have friends that don't have -- that can't go to the doctor and they can't go to the dentist whenever they chose to and so on.  So, I'm really -- I'm really grateful for all the things that I have and, you know, when I drove upon the res a couple Sunday's ago and if you look around and you think of all the fresh air you breath, you know, and the water you can drink here and  there --  there are places in cities and towns and countries, you know, where water is a necessity but it -- it's not like we have and I think sometimes we get a little complacent about the things we have and in talking to some elders and things there -- there are many more people in the Tribe here and out in the other areas that really truly appreciate the benefits that we have.  And I -- I wanted to share that with you because we get so many complaints, you know , and I'm one of them.  I -- I like the raises and the -- just -- you know, my little cup of tea, but I really am truly grateful for all of the things that we have.  And then I'm glad that we have the casino.  You know, I -- I wish that we had, you know, a little more diversity in other things, you know, for -- for other Tribal members that don't --  you know, if we had a barn or we had a farm or we had -- you know, I -- I really play -- I'm on the Cultural Trust Board and I was talking today about Perri, I and Betty and Kathy and all of us talking about when we go to bed at night, man, we're just full of ideas of things that we would like to have.  You know , picking black berries and making black berry jam, having a (unintelligible) again and (unintelligible), you know, reusing things.  I mean, we -- we're just full of these ideas and this energy.  But that's the kind of energy that we want from you guys.  That's the kind of energy that we want from all of the employees that -- that serve us,  that are there for us and Tribal government (unintelligible) from one door to the next that enthusiasm, that passion about what you truly believe in and when I see that in an employee that in an employee then I think they deserve a raise or I think they deserve a pat on the back.  So, when you guys might see things from those managers that we don't see.  So, I just wanted to share with you how -- how grateful I am for all of the opportunities that I have and my grandchildren.  So, thank you. 

KT:                  Thank you, Linda. 

RL:                  Thank you, Linda. 

KT:                  I -- I wasn't at the last meeting but Teto left -- did you guys introduce him? 

RL:                  No.  He wasn't at the last meeting.  I need to stay on that so -- we will make sure we do it at the General Council meeting. 

PM:                 Perri McDaniel, #2524.  That was very nice, Linda.  I appreciate that and I want to add to that because and -- and I thank you, my hands are raised to you for the opportunity to work for our membership at the Eugene office and I appreciate the opportunity again.  It makes me more appreciative of what we have here because I see what they don't have there and they have (unintelligible) down there sort of (unintelligible) work for them the best I can to get them just as much as we have here as possible in a good way for us.  But there is something else that I wanted to add in and it's about ethics and it's about other expectations of us and of our leadership and all of us in different positions of leadership on the (unintelligible) culture committee.  Our culture committee sat down at our last monthly meeting and made some recommendations for us to change our own bylaws, our own criteria for being a member, and one of the things we added to that is that we believe that we role modeled our culture and that our role modeling our culture in being representatives of our Tribe is being clean and sober and continuing that and walking that path.  And -- and I know that other Tribes have that as a policy.  Their Council people, I know a gal from Warm Springs, a good friend of mine, she went out and got a DUI, next time she came to a Council meeting she was out of there.  There's no tolerance for that there.  A lot of those tribes are like that too and I think it's an embarrassment to all of us when we have people in leadership positions here that go to public events and get drunk and out of hand.  And I would really like to see us put some sort of policy or ordinance in place where we don't allow this to happen and if it takes the membership putting together some sort of petition contact me and I'll write it because I just think that's unacceptable.  But it's my opinion as being here unbecoming of a Council person and we shouldn't tolerate it.  And then back to the issue about -- about the merit increases for those directors down there at the casino.  Jack was over at our culture committee meeting earlier when I brought it to his attention, my passion and concern for us having a (unintelligible) policy at our casino.  That we can try to stop some of these economic leakages from our casino and I would -- I beg you, plead with you, please reverse the policy that was adopt -- written and adopted on March 12, 2010, by Randy Dugger, to disallow Tribal members to sell their -- their things at the gift shops down there.  I'll tell you what, Jack heard about -- all about it that day in our culture committee meeting that one of the -- this is direct result of what can happen as a -- as a result of a policy like this.  When I was in the purchasing department down there and I was told that I was going -- I was hired to buy for our gift shop because they wanted to take the (unintelligible) shop and make it the -- the Indian stuff gift shop and that's why I was hired was for my expertise in that area but I was never allowed to -- the gift shop manager at that time told me here I want you to go buy some dolls for us, had some catalogs open to buy the dolls.  I flipped those catalogs back across the table at them and said I'm not going to buy those dolls.  I'll shop dolls for you but I'll shop the great deals.  So, I know native people who will make you replica dolls and, you know, our own Tribal members can do that for you.  I'll shop those for you.  I'm not going to buy out of that catalog because they're made in China and I'm offended by them.  I don't know Indians that look like that or dress like that.  They're offensive and at that time the person who did -- does the inventory control said for Christ sakes they're just dolls.  Give the catalog I'll put the order together and she did.  And we were carrying those dolls down there for the whole time and then the gift shop manager (unintelligible) back at me and said, well, it's your Tribal members who are buying them.  So, whether that's true or not just for Christmas I went in there looking at those dolls they were carrying and I never seen the ones that had the Northwest style, Northwest Coast style designs on them so I saw them in there and it had a certificate of authenticity on it and I said authentic what?  And he said it was an authenticated that it was a limited edition, number 2053 or some darn thing up to 5,000 -- 5,000 mass produced dolls and give her a name and give her a name vagina.  Oh.  And we had -- we had purchased four of those already, three of those sold out.  It was the last one in there and it was (unintelligible) for it.  And this is what happens when we have these kind of policies in place. 

KT:                  Perri, your time is up but since you're the only one here does anybody care?  Okay.  Go ahead. 

PM:                 That company also has other dolls and other Indian dolls.  They have a boy and girl couple.  The boy's name is penis and the girls name is Diach.  And I told her  that --

KT:                  In our casino?  Is that what you're telling me? 

PM:                 Yes.  I don't know that we ordered those specific dolls with those specific names on them.  I refused to participate in that ordering process so I didn't order them because I -- I didn't accept any -- refused to put my name on a purchase order.  But this is what gets me upset when I see these people down there, these managers and these directors getting merit increases.  I took the certificate of authenticity up to that manager's office and I said do you see this?  She said, no.  I said, well, you know, do you want to continue to buy from this company because it appears to me this company (unintelligible) what they think of Native women and Native men for that matter and you're okay with that?  And she said, no, I didn't see those.  Well, you're the one buying them.  They're ordering them.  It's a reflection on all of us.  I said it seems to me that that's what they're saying.  This is what the think of all Native women and I'm offended by it and -- and she said, well, don't say that too loud somebody might hear you. 

KT:                  Were they pulled?

PM:                 No.  She said go take -- she told the guy doing the inventory control that walked up there with me she told him to go make sure there was nothing else on there that had that name on it, pull it if there was, and just keep (unintelligible).  We'd already sold three of them right before Christmas.  But I just think that's -- that makes a good argument, a good case, for why we need to have an in-store policy where we can buy from our own Tribal members.  That we can buy the real deal and we're not buying these things -- I talked to my -- my sales rep who talked to the company and the company said it was a horrible mistake and the girl -- the doll's name was supposed to be Virginia and all the dolls had the same thing, in fact it was printed in the catalog, it was on the on-line catalog, and it's just a disgrace and -- and we have managers down there and -- and a director over that manager that allows -- we have the operations manager down there who writes the policies and (unintelligible) people and they get merit increases and, yeah, I want to (unintelligible) and I think something needs to be done about it.  That's all I have to say.  Thank you.

KT:                  Thank you, Perri.  Any comments from the Board? 

RL:                  I thought I'd add it to my list when I talk to Rodney about this issue along with the bonus issue but as far as, I guess -- as far as the ethics piece that I -- right now I mean there's -- there's only one thing about it and that is in process right now and if there's an ethics charge against a Council member we don't have the authority to remove em.  Only the membership has the authority to remove them and unless you change that by constitution we're only allowed to reprimand them, which we've done in the past, I think, a couple times.  Other than that, I mean, uh, I understand where you're coming from, Perri, as far as setting an example.  I think Council has been here a long time and it's a life changing situation when you get on Council.  If you -- you lose -- you've got to -- if you really understand your job and your role it's just not signing papers and stuff.  There's a leadership role and I believe that some don't understand that part of it.  You know, you're a Tribal leader.  You're not just a Tribal Council member.  You're not there just to sign paper.   You're a Tribal leader and you've got to set the example as -- to what, you know, when you represent your Tribe and your people.  So, as far as   us -- you know, everybody council's the way they believe they need to council and I believe judgment day comes on election day.  So -- but that's the way it is for right now and unless the membership wants to change it by constitution that's what we're stuck with. 

LO:                  Linda Olsen, #17.  You know, I'm -- I'm kind of confused sometimes about the processes.  You know, I -- I understood that membership gets -- you know, signs a petition and then they get signatures and so on and then -- but does it go to Tribal Court?  What -- where -- where does that -- like if we -- 

RL:                  What -- what are you --

LO:                  If you're trying to recall someone or whatever and what is the process for that? 

RL:                  Okay.  Go ahead, Kim.

KD:                 Kim D'Aquila, Assistant Tribal Attorney.  The process is outlined in the Constitution but it goes to -- the petition has to be verified by the Election Committee and -- and then the --  a special election is set up to handle it and depending on the timing of it -- it might be done in conjunction with a regular Council election as a separate item but a special election is -- is held and it's verify -- the petition itself has to be verified by the Election Committee. 

LO:                  Okay.  All right.  Well, the other -- the reason I came up here was because I wanted to share a -- something with someone and we were going back like generations, you know, of things that we did when we were -- like when our parents took care of their parents and their parents took care of our parents and we take care of our parents and -- and it's really quite an interesting -- you know, and I won't go into details but there's a lot of research done on generational things and in -- in 19 -- or 2011 we actually live in a society, all of us, you know, not just here but all over the place is that they -- my grandchildren are in their 20's, like my children were (unintelligible).  That generation has not one iota of interest of mowing my grass, washing my car or coming to my house to learn anything about my life.  And it's not me personally but in -- in a 60-year olds to the 20-year old it is -- there's a lot of research done on that  and -- and I find it -- I see it --  I see it in the elders and their grandchildren and their -- and in -- I don't know how to -- how do you change anything like that?  So, we were talking, a group of us were talking about we have housing, we have low to medium income housing up here and really do feel it takes a long time in (unintelligible) and save dollars and so on but now it's a housing development and you've got all these people and they brought children here and the children were at school and they -- some of the elders lived there and you (unintelligible) meal site and some of them go to the casino to work and so on and you have all these people living in this area and what do they do?  Some -- some of them have lived in cities and they bring their lifestyle here and they're in their 40's.  So, they've had 40 years of lifestyle however they've lived.  And some of them have 30, 20 or (unintelligible) but they bring their lifestyle to that housing development over there and then what do we offer them to change their lifestyle?  We offer them the gymnasium and they workout and they can walk up and down sidewalks and if the elders have (unintelligible) they go and -- and then there's the casino now but if we ever had a community meeting again and we ever sat down and we asked some of these people who are living over in -- in the housing over here what would make your life better?  What would do from the time you got up until you went to bed Monday through Sunday?   What would your life look like?  It wouldn't look like what it does.  It would not truly look like what they do.  So, maybe some day we can have a community meeting and we can -- and I will share with you and others about this information about what happens between our generations here.  We -- we come and we talk about Ms. Grout, Val, you know, that her mom and all those elders how they behaved and they brought that to us and so on but we were interested in what they did.  How do we impart that knowledge on our grandchildren and great grandchildren if they're not interested in hearing it?  So, maybe some day we can have a conversation and -- and enough people can get together and we can figure out a way to make sure that those people that live over there in that housing development have some kind of a life that they really want. 

KT:                  Thank you, Linda. 

RL:                  You know how I'd handle it, Linda?  I just tell them I'll be there to pick them up at a certain time and we're going to the pow wow or we're going to Memorial Day and they're ready when I get there and then we stop at the C Store on the way home. 

LO:                  You're a lucky one. 

SB:                  And I must be very fortunate too like Reyn, I guess.  My grandkids call me all the time.  Can we come out from town?  And then come out and see us all the time.  We pull them outside and go to something and they always say you need help doing that, grandpa, do you need any help doing that?  So, I -- I must be pretty fortunate and I believe that I am.

LO:                  Yes, you are.

VF:                  Violet Folden, #625.  I'm really fortunate.  Grandma, can I come live with you?  

RL:                  (Chuckling)

VF:                  And they do.  (Chuckling) 

RL:                  Do we have any other business?  If not I'll entertain a motion to adjourn.

JG:                   I'll move.

SB:                  Second.

RL:                  I have a first and second.  All in favor say aye.

MEMB:           Aye.  (In Unison)

RL:                  Opposed?  Abstentions?  The motion carries.  Good evening.

(Concluded)